Welcome


Andertoons


  • Daily Toon Click to enlarge
    ANDERTOONS.COM  CARTOONS Cartoonsby Andertoons

Mindfulness Bell

  • smallbell
Creative Commons

« Females Should Have No Authority Over Males | Main | Tenure! »

February 19, 2008

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451d7a769e200e55059c2ed8833

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Demographic Winter Hokum:

Comments

Danny

I've only just recently even heard the term "demographic winter", and almost right away I wondered if I must be missing something: isn't this just a concern for white or european ethnic or religious populations projected out into a global crisis? Isn't the birth rate in Africa skyrocketing? Isn't overall global population projected to increase well into the future?

At the same time, the survival of any and every culture is worthwhile - American or white or western culture no more, and no less, than any other. But can't it be framed that way, at least, by the demographic winter alarmists (I mean that in a neutral way)?

Anyway, thanks for digging down into the underlying assumptions of this concern about falling birth rates - it's given me more to think about.

EvaMom

Too bad you didn't watch the entire documentary. It further states that the immigrants to developed countries (from undeveloped countries) are predominantly men aged 15 to 64...so the undeveloped countries lose workers AND the children of those countries lose their fathers. Essentially, immigration is a temporary remedy for our population lag, but does not provide us with many children AND it leaves undeveloped countries in the lurch by stealing key components from their demographic. Hmm...doesn't seem like it's all about rich, white folk to me.

Sure, we could let the population collapse the global economy by failing to replace ourselves. It wouldn't render us extinct. But, is there a better way? That, to me, is what the film is asking.

Amused

I don't wish to defend or debunk this film but I do have an observation.It is amusing to me that you enjoy exposing others "underlying assumptions" but seem not to see your own. Such as...
"There is no argument presented of what such a decline might positively engender..." Positive for who? The lucky few(er)?
In your last paragraph you seem to think the answer is an economic system emerging from human ingenuity plus more efficient methods and technology.(Hmm...sounds like YOU had an underdeveloped country in mind!)This system is supposed to create wealth...not profit for the few. Which few?Oh...not the few that are wealthy now but the few(er) that will share all wealth when the population declines? I guess it will be so much more enjoyable when there aren't so many oppressed poor around to watch.
You used the phrases "wanted children" and "moral autonomy" and "overpopulation" I don't know about you, but in this short set of quotes I find a lot to worry me.Am I to understand that you mean we should be able to have any and all sex (moral autonomy) without (overpopulating)the world with (unwanted) children? What child should be unwanted? What is the exact number of population before it becomes overpopulation and who should determine these things?
You implied that THESE men have an elitist veiwpoint.THAT strikes me as a whitewash...If you know what I mean.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Mindfulness Bell

  • smallbell

Cost of Iraq War

STOP Torture

  • StopthumbAmnesty
    Torture is a moral issue. Please consider the NRCAT and Amnesty Intl. campaigns against torture.

Categories

neighborhood

Freethought

cml sanghas

Exposure Latitude(s)



zendotab
Copyright 2004-2009 WoodMoor Village, Nathaniel I. Cordova | This work licensed under a Creative Commons
Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.0 License.